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Ferrari Motorcycle Part 2

27
April
2006
  File under  Special-Bikes
  Author: Mike Werner
  Location: Normandy, France
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After publishing the photo of the Ferrari motorcycle {link} last month, Dan sent me more details and photos. It's a real Ferrari, and the builder, George, not only built one, he built two. Information is a bit sketchy, so patience...

George, a former vintage GP racer built his Ferrari motorcycles using bits from other motorcycles, cars and even airplanes. The V-12 Ferrari pictured in the previous post is called "Andreas", but George also built "Dino":

Ferrari Dino Motorcycle

George and the Ferrari Dino Motorcycle
Can you imagine having a 350 hp Ferrari engine on your Yamaha 600 FZR ??

Can you imagine the roar of the engine when you rev it up ??

Only the sound of the turbine engine MT Y2K would sound better ! The motorcycle must be shaking when you open up the throttle!

Pure poetry in motion !


The V6 engine block is enormous:



Ferrari Dino Motorcycle

And before everyone thinks that this is it... Ferrari actually tried its hand at producing motorcycles !

real Ferrari Motorcycle
It was built by Kay Engineering, under Ferrari approval, and has a 900 cc, four cylinder engine. It is the only official Ferrari motorcycle in existence!

Click here to read more about it.

Ferrari did make some sort of motorcycles, if my memory serves me right, with 80 to 125 cc engines. However, it was not Enzo Ferrari, but Fratelli Ferrari, nothing to do with the mythical car manufacturer ! Only a few got built, and even less survived.



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  • 1) Ed Moore said on: (28/04/2006 13:23:52 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Not to nit-pick, Mike but I count twelve holes in that crankcase. Perhaps the photos got mixed?

    Great site, I check it every day.

    Ed


  • 2) Mike Werner said on: (28/04/2006 15:00:22 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Hi Ed, no photos are from both Dino and Andreas. One is a V12 the other a V6.


  • 3) R.D'Angelo said on: (01/05/2006 06:44:11 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    LOOK OUT HAYABUSA ;-)


  • 4) steve said on: (01/05/2006 06:52:01 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    GEORGE did an amazing job -- and people aren't impressed because CHRYSLER also made a motorcycle with a Viper engine -- with unlimited corporate resources and manpower --- others say any bike that isn't a Harley isn't a bike ---- very strange thinking from a lot of people --- this george dude is an artist and an engineer


  • 5) Dirk Pierce said on: (01/05/2006 07:51:27 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I sure hope they have bikes in heaven!


  • 6) John Holihan said on: (01/05/2006 08:30:54 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    350 Horses sounds great. Just imagine the kick from a 500 HP Boss Hog or Boss Hoss. These big block Chevy engines are incredible on either the bike or trike.


  • 7) Dick Martin said on: (01/05/2006 12:34:17 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    In Columbus, OH, there is a Harley Dealership across from a Pontiac Dealership I used. The Harley shop had a bike in the window with a 350ci Chevy engine on it. They raced it. Changed chains after ever two races...


  • 8) vivian baker said on: (01/05/2006 14:06:37 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Let me test ride it, rate it, compare it (geez, to what?) and write about in our magazine BORN TO RIDE. We have so many builders here in Tampa, Florida that would be interested reading that article. Better yet , bring it here the monthe article is out and show it off. Taking orders?


  • 9) Fat Matt said on: (01/05/2006 15:45:42 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Wait until you see the Pratt and Whitney R-985 powered bike we are building..Can be used to pull down buildings in your spare time


  • 10) I.B. Devus said on: (01/05/2006 16:28:43 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Bring it to California's streets, it'll last 3 days with all the idiot drivers here.


  • 11) Jim Hoehne said on: (01/05/2006 16:32:31 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    what tranny is the engine mated to? A peaky, high-revving motor needs a lot of gears to make it work.


  • 12) Michael said on: (01/05/2006 17:00:58 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    This thing would end up being the death of me. I can

    visualize myself going over a cliff at about 160 mph. I'm glad I couldn't afford it.


  • 13) Desmond said on: (01/05/2006 17:05:23 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Lets's give George some credit here,how many many people out there have tried something like this and given up on the project, because they couldn't handle all the problems and cost involved. Keep it up George, you are an inspiration, without chaps like you the whole thing would stagnate. How boring would that be?


  • 14) George Missbach, Jr. said on: (01/05/2006 18:06:45 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    This only goes to prove that with enough money and bad taste, one can build anything. Give me a classic Velocette Thruxton or Vincent Black Shadow anytime.


  • 15) Fred Phillips said on: (01/05/2006 19:11:22 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Wild bikes! Sounds like they would fit well into our upcoming motorcycle auctions....want to sell one or both? Please advise!

    FRED at American Cycle Auctions


  • 16) Jerry Hawks said on: (01/05/2006 20:28:09 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Nice job on the bike, would like to see the drivetrain. As for the "If it ain't a Harley" idiot, U are too ignorant to realize that Harley is NOT that good of a bike, nor is it "Honda" reliable! People ride Harleys for the life style. On a Harley U can dress up in Black leathers (YES, they ALL DO!) and play bad ass like the old Hells Angels. Notice they like to ride in groups? LOL, also that way when it quits, U have someone to go for help! Just enjoy the Bike & the Freedom, don't worry about the name plate.


  • 17) Lator said on: (01/05/2006 21:39:39 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Would be fun to ride to Starbuck's just for the conversation effect.


  • 18) said on: (01/05/2006 22:46:45 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Boss Hoss builds bikes with 502" V-8 over 500 hp and sells them on the street.


  • 19) said on: (01/05/2006 22:47:39 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    The 502 is a small block chevy not a big block.


  • 20) Tattooeddown said on: (01/05/2006 22:54:50 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Why all of the negativity??? This motorcycle just happens to be someone's pride & joy..... I ride Harley's and prefer them over any other motorcycle past or present, but I do appreiciate most of the older/vintage motorcycles: Indian's new & old, and of course the Eglish bikes: Norton, Triumph, B.S.A.....

    & some of earliest American manufacter's...

    And yes I do wear black leather,... for protection,

    not to be a weekend badass! I've been riding for more years than most, but like you I have an opinion, but unlike you I'm not intimidated by clubs or real riders.. See people for what they are, not what they try too hard to be. These phoney's will sooner or later find new toys and then the market will become overwelmed with bikes for a more reasonable price.

    Although, I personaly don't care for metric type bikes, more power to those that do... To each his own.

    Mike S.


  • 21) tth said on: (01/05/2006 23:00:31 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Names and engines won't match; DINO is V6. 308 is V8. Ferrari don't make 350hp V12s and so on..

    - Interesting anyway


  • 22) Carl said on: (01/05/2006 23:18:26 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I ride a harley but have also riden alot of rice burners. depends on what you like to do. I also ride in a tee-shirt and blue jeans. by the time i get all dressed up to ride i find i have lost the urge. Full leather, radio, heater, wind screen , reverse, and two way radio? may as well stay on the couch.

    Carl from TEXAS


  • 23) said on: (01/05/2006 23:36:58 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    hi


  • 24) Becca said on: (01/05/2006 23:50:49 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Well, I enjoyed the specs on the bike but it's a bit too futuristic for my taste. It was a great effort though. . something to be proud of.

    Becca

    Twisted Metal Inc.


  • 25) David said on: (01/05/2006 23:59:09 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    How fast does the car go? becuase it looks pretty dangerous with all the horsepower going at top speed.


  • 26) said on: (02/05/2006 01:25:08 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    None of this will matter in 80 years.


  • 27) Jim said on: (02/05/2006 01:35:37 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Why all the negitive posts. This fella made something out of mix matched parts and came up with an Original. I have riddin and owned all kinds of bikes from a Harley to a Yammy. I praise the man for his inginuity and ability. As usual those who cant or dont know how to do something have to cut it down. As far as the black leather comments go on bikers, pick gravel or asphalt out of your body after a lay down once and it might change your mind.


  • 28) sonnyrox said on: (02/05/2006 02:07:43 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    George obviously has a lot of imagination, expertise, and a passion for machines. This transcends the motorcycle genre. This is the art of the machine. An extension of someones dreams and intellect coupled with technical ability and initiative lots of conformists and pack runners dont usually dont have. 500 horsepower aint that big a deal. Lots of guys have built suzuki bandits into 1400-1500cc monsters. they run 6.6 seconds in street trim. 550-600 hp with turbochargers and nitrous but still a essentially a motorcycle engine. dont need a v-8 car motor for that. What we have here with the ferrrari bike is intellect, ingenuity, pride, and passion, all executed to a high degree. All you people that have been dumping on this bike have only one thing in common. You wish you were this good at doing something. Good luck with that.


  • 29) Frank Zappa said on: (02/05/2006 16:30:58 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Whoever said that the 502 chevy was a small block, and not a big block needs to put down the crack pipe, and be strung up by the balls for public humiliation.


  • 30) Jane Larkin said on: (09/05/2006 17:36:28 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I am working on Zoo magazine in London.

    I would like to use the images of the Dino Ferrari Motorcycle to use in the mag.

    I need these urgently, if at all possible.

    Can someone put me in touch with George?

    I look forward to hearing from someone soon.

    Thanks,

    Jane


  • 31) dan said on: (09/05/2006 19:30:52 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I have submitted pictures of three bikes. The debate was started when everyone saw the 308 V-8 built circa 1990.

    The new picture is the Dino v-6 with custom super charger; bean oil is added to the fuel for lubing the supercharger which has spring loaded tefflon fins that ease out under rotation as the bike fires up.

    The pistons are custom milled to match modern sport bike pistons. Look closely at the photos to see the charger....so yes on the 350bhp. He had problem blowing

    expensive head gaskets which have been switched out to sheets of heated copper.

    The V-12 is two of the old Honda cbx 6 inlines.

    Notice the temendous amount of work to merge the two banks onto one common crank and block. To the critic's notice that each bike meets the techniques of its era and looking at the V-12 frame (100%) custom and everybit as nice as a T955 aluminum frame .

    The Chrysler is not infact a motorcycle as it has more that 2 wheels and simply zipps accross a parking lot without turning. The Boss Hoss V-8, doesn't that include a 350 turbo hydromatic tranny......

    and the helicopter jet engine doesn't drive like a bike as its hard to down shift and have engine breaking at 40,000 RPM, plus its covered in cheap graphite. Nope, this is a real motorcycle and can be driven several miles up the California coastline for a lunch, showing off and leaving any modern sport bike in the dust. Its not a 999 in the corners but it does handle quite well.


  • 32) dan said on: (09/05/2006 20:23:26 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    www.cbxclub.com/Xpress/200401_24_28.pdf

    here is a more complete story of George.

    I've had the pleasure of seeing the Dino and the new V-12 built in San Diego and buying the man many coffee's for advice on trips to European motorcycle camping. These aren't just bikes; there is a story behind the machines. Just look at the up to date racer he built in 1968 back when privateers had a shot at winning a few rounds.


  • 33) Steven Patch said on: (11/06/2006 11:22:39 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Once upon a time, when I was a freshman in high school in San Diego - around eight years ago - I was walking from school to the bus stop. Parked on the street was something I couldn't possibly have imagined - a vision of chrome so blinding, it was all I could do to make out the Ferrari logo on its flank. Being a car-crazy youth, I knew exactly what that logo was, and was perplexed that this motorcycle existed. I imagined it must have been a prototype bike (Symbolic Motors, a prominent luxury car company, is just down the street, and I often saw exotic and rare machinery going by). About three years later, an unholy howl went past me, and I whipped my neck in time to see a chrome motorcycle whip past. I knew at once that it was the Ferrari bike, but it was out of sight. Another year or two in the future, I finally saw pictures of that bike, which seemed like a feverish childhood dream - they were photographs pinned up to the wall of an exhaust shop who had done some work on the bike. Ever since then, I've been trying to find more photos or information on the elusive character who had the balls to build something like this. This site fulfulls something I've been searching for for a long time. Thank you so much.


  • 34) Jason said on: (12/02/2007 15:49:09 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I actually had this bike on the dyno, and then watched the shop owner (Lee Shierts) ride this bike up and down Aero Dr, in 1993 or 1994.

    Due to a badly slipping clutch, it only made 175 or so HP on the dyno.

    On the street, it was not really all that fast. Remember, this thing weighs significantly more than a regular motorcycle.

    Regardless, it is stunning to behold, and George is a brilliant fabricator and engineer. This bike is truly amazing in every respect.


  • 35) Jeff said on: (09/03/2007 20:43:29 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Hi To All Concerned,

    George is an old friend and mentor of mine from younger days in SD...I haven't seen him in 12 years...he builds bikes because in his words..."what else am I going to do?" or "why do I want to buy some pre-fabricated mass produced machine, if I'm going to be on a motorcylce I want to know it!" I want to be on a REAL motorcylcle that vibrates and makes noise!

    The day he brought the V-8 engine back from the UK...it was sitting on a stand in the garage we shared where he was busy taking a file to it. GEORGE: Do you know what this is Jeffrey? ME: An engine? GEORGE: Laughing..."thats right, it's a Ferrari engine." ME: What are you gonna do with it? GEORGE: Build a motorcycle. ME: No fucking way! GEORGE: Yes...I'm afraid so. Do you want to help?

    ME: Yes.

    It took him 2 years to build it with no drawings only cardboard templates. My contribution was minimal at best,"Can I hold that part for you George?" and more likely I just got in the way, but he tolerated it.

    The frame and most of the body are T660 Aluminium, the exposed cam wheels are from a lotus it has four super trapp exhausts, tuned just right...an incredible sight to behold and geared for 220mph top speed, we toyed with the idea of taking it to Salt Lake but never did. On the day we commissioned it with an unceromonious role down the driveway it started up on the second attemp.

    I got to ride it on one of our coffee runs thru La Jolla and down our favorite speedy stretch of Torrey Pines Rd to Del Mar...needless to say I felt like a god on the ultimate mechanical beast grinning from ear to ear.

    Andreas "GEORGE" Georgeades there are very few like him.


  • 36) said on: (01/06/2007 21:28:54 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    God!! That's ugly!! Are you guys that like it all American? Yep, thought so.

    In Britain we have bikes that look good and go like shit !

    Get a life, Enzo will be turning in his grave.


  • 37) G said on: (12/06/2007 05:13:00 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    THATS SWEET


  • 38) jhase white said on: (31/12/2007 02:59:20 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    George, the builder of the bike is one of my best friends, He is an ex Isle of man racer and he lives in La Jolla Ca, and that is about all I will tell you about this most mysterious man.

    Does the bike work you say? Iv'e personally ridden (mostly behind) it for years and it outperforms any other vehicle we have come across, both in the corners and in a straight line.

    It will hit 100 in first gear and eats tires every 300-500 miles. Sitting in the valley of the v6 is a hand built supercharger, 3 downdraft carbs and 3 suzuki side drafts balanced to eachother. There is a chain coming from the center of the crank that drives a late model honda CBX transmission. He cut the timing cover off the left side of the engine to save weight. He reversed the rotation of the engine by cutting the camshafts apart, flipping over the sections, then hand welding them back together on a rotating jig.

    As for all of you that knock George and his bike, lets see you hand build a better one then voice your oh so important opinion.


  • 39) George Dillaway said on: (27/01/2008 03:48:33 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    The Dino Ferrari powered bike is powered by a V-6 2.0 liter Dino engine. They made about 180Hp in the late 60's. The blower is pushing around 7lbs boost. That should put it around the mid 200's HP wise. It uses a bank of FZR1000 carburetors feeding the blower. He has 2 more Ferrari powered bikes also. One more V-6 (non-blown) and V-8 powered. The V-12 is two CBX engines and you wouldn't believe the problems that he solved building the V-12. He's had to manufacture cam chain tensioners, install two rods on crank throws designed for one, build ignition systems, hell he built the frame, tank, seat, fairing, and on most of his bikes he built the swingarms. And some of us have trouble tracing a short in the wiring harness that causes the turn signals to not work properly. I have some awesome photo's of Andreas Georgeade racing from the 60's and 70's. In one of them he's infront of Giacomo Agostini (definitely) and John Cooper (I believe). And he's on a bike that he built.

    Andreas Georgeade is a genius and the bikes that he builds are the motorcycle equivalent of the Bugatti Royale (I'm entitled to my opinion).

    If you'd like to see more photo's or hear more about him, email me at cbxtacy@yahoo.com





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