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Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

27
May
2004
  File under  Kawasaki New Products Uniformed
  Author: Mike Werner
  Location: Paris, France
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Mil Spec KLR Diesel motorcycle
Back in 26th of July 2003 I wrote a small article on diesel powered motorcycles in the Armed Forces (UK & US) {link}.

There are lots of good reasons to have a powerful motorcycle that can run diesel for the army, but that equally applies to civilian applications & use.

Diesel engines run at lower revs, and tend to be stronger and last a lot longer then their normal petrol colleagues. It's just that kick starting them is going to be a bitch.

Obviously, the cost of running a diesel motorcycle would be lower that a normal one. But more important, a civilian version of the Military spec Kawasaki KLR 650-M1030M1 would be great for all those adventurer riders, passing through countries were unleaded fuel is unheard off, and were you'd be lucky to have diesel fuel available.

What better motorcycle would there be if you could have one that is a proven battle horse (no pun intended) like the Kawasaki KLR 650 AND runs diesel (and JP5 aviation fuel).... Well this might all become reality shortly thanks to F1 Engineering.

This engineering company produces the above diesel powered KLR motorcycle, and is looking to see if there's a market for a civilian one. It would seem that they are getting ready to produce one.

So if you're interested in a diesel powered motorcycle, visit F1 Engineering's web site. Click here to go there.



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  • 1) Creek said on: (31/01/2005 04:20:50 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Creek | website: www.23skidoo.us
    M1030M1 Diesel Motorcycle (U.S. Marines)

    Hello,

    Does it use a spark plug ? a glow plug ? Is it easily cranked manualy ?

    Thank You,

    Creek


  • 2) Doc said on: (28/04/2005 22:41:46 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Doc | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Replacement parts, special maintanence, service and repair. If we get one of this for the civilian market is there anyone that can work on them?

    Thks & S/F

    Doc


  • 3) patrick cavanagh said on: (15/05/2005 00:28:39 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:patrick cavanagh | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I would love to get hold of a diesel bike. I could run on bio doesel produced by myself.

    Any news would be great


  • 4) Nick said on: (08/06/2005 01:25:52 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Heck yeah! You could probably run 50% SVO and any of the rated fuels.


  • 5) peter said on: (30/06/2005 07:44:46 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    How long must we wait for this bike to be on the road?

    Add shaft drive and its maintenance free.


  • 6) Gary said on: (04/07/2005 16:43:57 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Gary | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL

    120 miles per gallon?? Sign me up!!!


  • 7) thomas said on: (19/07/2005 06:49:53 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:thomas | website: ...
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    guten tag

    i will buy it !!! sofort !!! pls offer it .....


  • 8) Czl said on: (20/07/2005 06:23:30 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Czl | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    please produce this for civilian use. doing so will keep motorcycles head and shoulders above the cage for a long while. while the ex-pilots are hocking headsup displays for street bikes for shits and giggles, we'll be going with the flow of traffic twice as far as a gas bike. make a comprehensive service/spec manual available and source parts from military surplus forever. i'll do whatever needs to be done, and employ some of the many resourceful californians to help fix what goes wrong if necessary. let's do it!


  • 9) Paul Jasmon said on: (27/07/2005 23:20:19 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Paul Jasmon | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Would love to buy one since gas is going to cost $6 per gallon soon.

    Let us manufacture it.

    Paul


  • 10) Roger Ellison said on: (13/08/2005 17:34:04 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Roger Ellison | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Bring it on, lets be having some


  • 11) Lee said on: (13/08/2005 20:05:55 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I want one too!!!


  • 12) Ivan said on: (19/08/2005 21:52:25 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Ivan | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    What a wonderful idea... I've heard of diesel powered motorcycles and their amazing fuel economy... I wonder why they haven't been released yet so that we regular consumers (civilian ones) could buy them. If anybody here knows about the technical specs of the diesel KLR I'd be glad to get more information. Thanks in advance.


  • 13) Kevin Adams said on: (29/08/2005 23:56:57 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Kevin Adams | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I would love to have one of these in my garage! A daily commuter getting 100mpg! Run it on bio-diesel made from the tons of excess and wasted bio-fuel sources produced in the US! WHY NOT! Get it on the market...NOW!


  • 14) marcel said on: (30/08/2005 15:32:40 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:marcel | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    if the price is right, I want one. I drive about a 100 miles a day so...


  • 15) Tommy Wheeler said on: (03/09/2005 20:04:32 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Tommy Wheeler | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    How soon could I purchase one? The fuel savings make a strong case for this machine!!! Plus - it's dang cool!


  • 16) ben jones said on: (09/09/2005 19:12:13 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:ben jones | website: VISFI.org
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Please make this happen for the public. I would buy six right now as part of our on farm bio-diesel project. We are converting all of our farm engine needs to diesel. Right now we have gas driven Jailings from china. Come on give us the option.

    Thanks -

    Ben


  • 17) bob said on: (12/09/2005 20:56:09 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:bob | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I would love to have one for biodiesel and riding in the commute lane. Even better has a 3 wheeler commuter car on biodiesel. Would you sell just the engine?

    cheers

    bob


  • 18) bob said on: (12/09/2005 23:19:18 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:bob | website: http://www.m1030.com/models.htm
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    looks like US civilian model for sale march 2006

    { Link }

    With a world class rolling chassis, the proven performance and durability of the M1030M1 Military Motorcycle engine, the spectacular patriotic graphics, and over 102 mpg, the Diesel fueled D650A1 Bulldog is a true "triple threat", winner for sport touring, on/off road riding, and everyday commuting. Production is scheduled for March of 2006.


  • 19) Potsie said on: (13/09/2005 12:53:00 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Potsie | website:
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    this sounds like a machine for the proper motorcyclist, not the weekend rider, who takes his car to work during the week. I need one... NOW!!


  • 20) XF22B said on: (14/09/2005 03:36:17 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    The civilian version is expected (by the company, I called HDT) to be released in March 2006. It is expected to be sold for anything from $12,000 to $20,000. A hell of a jump from the gas KLR.


  • 21) Mike said on: (18/09/2005 18:45:55 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Mike | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie


  • 22) Udhi said on: (25/09/2005 22:26:41 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Udhi | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Oh bring it on, bring it Sooooooooo ONNNN!

    We are looking at a kinda global emancipation laydees and gentlemen...although it seems a tad ambitious to ask 12 to 20K for one, it might turn out to be a rich mans play thing, unitl the chinese and the japanese find a way of making a a cheaper, more refined and robust machine, oooh in a few months from its release >:)

    Udhi


  • 23) John said on: (29/09/2005 20:42:43 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:John | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I'm still waiting to hear when I can buy a diesel KLR.

    Also, it would be great if some one could produce some diesel-powered mopeds, scooters, bicycle assist engine kits, etc.

    If you have questions about biodiesel, just go to

    { Link }

    Rudolph invented his engine to run on veggie oil!!!

    google: Rudolph Diesel


  • 24) Jon said on: (29/10/2005 09:02:59 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    We need it today, what's the hold up?


  • 25) Doug said on: (06/11/2005 04:38:58 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Doug | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    The info. I got back in August was that the "Collector Edition" model was priced around $16,000.00 and set for release in March. The civilian "Bulldog" was supposed to be priced between $7,000 and $8,000 US. HDT was supposed to announce the commemorative/collectors release and prepayment sales at Bonneville. That did not happen. The previous info. was released to the European market. Other folks have different answers for pricing. Since a "Release Celebration" did not happen and no formal pricing has been offered by HDT on their websire, I infer that HDT parts suppliers/contracts have been delayed or not yet in place. Obviously, the answers given are very inconsistent. I speculate that this could be a lot like the release of the new Vincent bikes, mostly a marketing test than the real thing. HDT is sure not forwarding any info. in the promised newsletters.

    On a more positive note, F1 Engineering (a partner) is planning a release of the bulldog engine along with a 1000 cc DOHC v-twin @ 90 hp and a turbo twin @ 110 hp. No dates given


  • 26) Me said on: (19/11/2005 18:14:08 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Me | website:
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    I have now wanting! Wanting! Argh! Have wanting very much!


  • 27) kwillig said on: (13/12/2005 20:23:25 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email: | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Every bike rider I know is interested... but the price is steep.... but hey! with Biodiesel & 100 mpg+ it's the way to go...


  • 28) Stuart said on: (14/12/2005 16:07:54 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Stuart | website: www.DieselBike.net
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    Limited ed Bulldog is priced at $18,995. Latest news on www.DieselBike.net

    Stuart


  • 29) hannes said on: (17/12/2005 04:06:47 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    i'd buy it


  • 30) rex webb said on: (22/12/2005 21:41:09 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:rex webb | website: NO
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    HI i am he other rider seen on a Dorsett Diesel.

    Ernie Dorsett the BUILDER and i Travel in Europe and

    Scandinavia on our bikes.Lands end to John o Groats

    Was one of our Trips,175+ M P G ,we averaged over the

    2000 app miles we covered.NOW I NEED DETAILS OF THIS

    NEW Diesel BIKE PLEASE !

    Happy Christmas Rex Webb


  • 31) dragsta said on: (15/01/2006 05:02:55 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:dragsta | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    I contacted KLR long ago about a civilian version of this bike. At that time they had no plans for one. All of my riding is done on the street, so I want a big, v-twin, cruiser diesel. I also want a mid-size diesel pickup but they don't import them to the US. No doubt the big-oil bastards want to keep the gasoline, status quo. With Bush in office don't expect anything to change for the better any time soon.


  • 32) dragsta said on: (15/01/2006 05:11:16 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:dragsta | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    { Link }


  • 33) jmhinckl said on: (28/01/2006 04:00:43 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    I know the people who own HDT. They are planning on starting a limited production in March or April of 200 motorcycles for a release that is unknown at this time. They will cost $18,999 because of the limited production. The bikes use glow plugs and are not manually cranked. They have a keyed ignition which is easily started. F1 Engineering is not a partner and will not be producing a v -twin or anything else for that matter. HDT is the sole producer of this engine and technology. See their website for more info- www.dieselmotorcycles.com


  • 34) dragsta said on: (02/02/2006 05:24:32 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    For $19,000 I think I'll pass. I'd rather have one of these:

    { Link }

    or these:

    { Link }


  • 35) the buzzard said on: (02/04/2006 07:02:38 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:the buzzard | website:
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    having had 1 - klx650 and 1 klr650 have wished for

    a civ ver of this bike. now i will wait for a more real price. 19k - i don't think so.


  • 36) Douglas Grego said on: (07/05/2006 01:34:40 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Douglas Grego | website: http:// http://www.myspace.com/67570566
    A rational, economists view of the KLR DIESEL bike.

    The civilian version of this motorcycle will be released at the end of the year with a sticker of $19,000. I bought my Suzuki GSF 1200 for $3,600, and it gets 40 mpg. I ride every single day of the year to work, and since I live in the city, only 5 miles away from work, let's say I do 25 miles a day, 365 days a year. That will make up for longer trips in the summer.<p>

    At $19,000 new, the gas mileage of the HDT KLR will overcome the price diference for me after I've ridden it every single day, for 21.58 years. <p>

    102 mpg is very impressive, and exciting, but $19,000 is an obscene price for a motorcycle. I'd rather use that money on a 2 year old GSX-R 1000, and 50 high class hookers.


  • 37) Ken Williams said on: (10/05/2006 07:58:12 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    Hasn't anyone heard of the Royal Enfield diesel bike produced in the UK since WW-2 then tooling sold to India - still going strong, and available (not in US) in diesel versions? Many Germany aftermarket companies buy these as gas models and put Hatz (German)or Lombardi (Italian) diesels in them. And at about 1/3rd the price...

    Maybe it should read "North America's First Production Diesel Bike", The Russians have had one for even longer than the Brits...


  • 38) Anonymous said on: (19/05/2006 09:21:06 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Anonymous | website:
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    As long as GW and the rich oil executives are in power, we will never see anything, other than gasoline, be the primary fuel. They have *absolutely* no interest in establishing fuel independence for the Nation; they are only interested in fattening the pockets of their oil buddy friends.

    The diesel KLR is a motorcycle of the future. It's high time that there should be a civilian version of it. If Kawawsaki would stop being afraid of GW and more afraid of the Global consumer, they might make the right business decision.

    I'd rather give my money to a farmer down the street in Nebraska or in Georgia; than an oil executive in Texas, or their corrupt cohorts in Iran.

    Big US Oil! Wake up! The climate is changing and you will be left behind if you don't wake up! It's time to start thinking "energy" and to stop thinking "petroleum". The companies that think "energy" will live into the 21st century: Those that think "petroleum" will die in the 21st century.

    As far as the vehicle manufacturers, look at Jeep. They have built several times more diesel vehicles in the past year than they expected to build in the *entire* year.

    I think a diesel KLR would dominiate the production line.


  • 39) said on: (25/05/2006 15:01:08 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    if the price of the klr will be 19000 dollers

    who are you kidding its not worth the money.

    lets face it any body like myself who would want to own such a bike ,wants to save money plus the enviroment.get real if you want to sell this bike to the public take a good look at the rediculous cost..

    or maybe you only want to sell it too the military..


  • 40) Colomo said on: (15/07/2006 23:33:21 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Colomo | website:
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    The cost of a Kawasaki KLR 650 is $5200. The cost of the rolling chassis alone is probably no more than $3k. $16k is too much for any motor\tranny upgrade that is deseigned for general use. This is especially true when you consider that with any new product there are likely to be warranty issues and its unlikely there will be a dealership in your neighborhood (or even state) for some time. Come on HDTUSA, I'm prepared to take a chance on you. Bring the price down to $10k or less and I'll buy one.


  • 41) said on: (06/12/2006 09:17:33 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    get the price down to under 6 k and you will sell more bikes than you could imagine


  • 42) Erik Brinkman said on: (29/01/2007 07:20:34 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:Erik Brinkman | website: http://www.erikbrinkman.com/rbike
    Civilian Version of Military KLR DIESEL Motorcycle

    MilItary bike specs click on animation at the bottom of the main page.

    Large imaage of military motorcycle in the Gallery.

    erikbrinkman.com/rbike


  • 43) dragsta said on: (11/02/2007 19:59:41 GMT)Gravatar Image
    email:dragsta | website: http://www.digiflux.biz
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    Clean burn diesel technology is the key to energy independence. It's a crime that our "leaders" are not pursuing this as a national security issue.


  • 44) Doug said on: (03/04/2007 22:05:38 GMT)Gravatar Image
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    The ultra positive reactions seen here to this bike seemed totally Pie in the Sky. You all are simply assuming it is a great design when in fact it was done ONLY as a means of meeting a goal set down by a non motorcyclist military think tank that simply was mandating that ALL vehicles end up running on the same fuel. So our result here is not a carefully designed Motorcycle but rather an adaptation of something else. (bastardization would not be totally unfair either) The result might meet the letter of their fuel requirement and might even serve the Marines or whoever uses it good enough. But for you guys to sit there at your computer and just ASSUME this is a great bike for anyone to own because it is "diesel" is ultra naive!! FACT this bike has NOWHERE near the same performance characteristics as the "donor" bike. (and the donor bike is a fairly lacking 20 year old design begin with even though for the money I own and enjoy mine a bunch!) Understand that KLR gas bike was the result of many many years bike devlopment, this engineering firm tossed away essentially the whole engine portion of the powerplant (yes it retains tranny,clutch,starter, side covers etc etc preserving the appearance dimensions and shaft O.C. orientation so that it is so closely akin to the donor that it appears to be one more modern M?C power plant. But this NEW engine design does not benefit from years and years of M/C development with consumer feedback via the marketplace, racing influences and decades of test reviews and model comparisons all of which drive the designers to redesign and further refine model upon model year after year massaging overall product designs. Rather THIS effort is pretty much single effort of an engineer's or team of engineers. Yes a successful design attempt to gain the contract but still it is but one of a small number of M/C diesel engines in their relative INFANT state lacking all the race competion refinement and the refinements and improvments that occur with brand competions for retail buyers. No wonder it does not even begin to have the power of the KLR nor should anyone expect it to be anywhere near as endearing and pleasant to own an operate. But hey some "know it alls" with hardly any motorcycle background and so nothing to compare it with might just love the hell out of it. People enjoyed the hell out of the crude motorcycles of the 1920's, 30's and 40's too because they were way more fun than a horse. Bottom line is that absolutely no average motorcyclist is going to desire to purchase this underpowered FAR overpriced bike! Having said that it is NOT to say I wouldnt love to have one myself! ... for free or super cheap that is .... heck it would be a very cool toy! I know it will appeal and sell to some affluent survialist miltary buff types, you know the same ones that bought REAL HumVees prior to "civilian" model.





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