Nice concept, but...

I wrote an article about the Neander Cycle also, but my conclusion was: Nice concept, but too expensive. The Motorcycle will cost 68.500,- Euros (about 75.000 USD ??). That is too much I think, cause the original Diesel Cycles always followed the philosophy "motorcycling so cheap as possible".

Example: Royal Enfield Diesel Cycles like the Royal Enfield Taurus with an italian stationary motor (Lombardini). Takes about 2 Liter Diesel on 100 kilometers.

Nevermind, the Neander is a VERY interesting motorcycle and technically state of the art and an uniq example that it is possible to build a powerfull diesel motorcycle.

But the price is awesome! :)

But if that thing is mass produced it should become more affordable. And the, if the $65,000 Ducati can be sold out in hours, this thing stands a chance....

Maybe...

Maybe I just earn not enough money too keep in mind, that expensive things are mostly sold out very quick. ;)

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For AU$10,000 ($US about 7000) you can buy a brand new

mid-cc motorcycle with the same fuel efficiency,

better horsepower handling and top speed,

and half the weight! So why this?

I'll be eager to see what happens when the technology

matures more... until then, it's at least an improvement

on existing diesels, but not as good as a petrol engine.

Carn, not only in down under, but anywhere. However, the interest of diesel is price of the fuel, long livity of the engine, torque at low revs.

The price they're asking of course has got nothing to do with reality. But as it evolves, price will come down.

I for one, would love to see this kind of engine on my BMW 1150GS. Long distance adventure riding often means that you can't find normal fuel in exotic places. But you'll always find diesel...

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What a wonderful idea. Just two problems,

#1 why does everyone think every new concept bike had to be either a sport bike or a race bike?

#2 where I live in upper Montana diesel is currently $3.05 and I didn't note a block/oil heater plug on the bike. So I'll stick to riding a 79 GL1000 thankyou.

diesel Neander motorcycle

Great idea, but I wish they'd make something smaller (125 to 250cc) which people in the third world can afford.

Preferably off-road bikes. The roads are mostly awful, and noise and pollution levels don't matter so much.

The pollution level ALWAYS matters! Air pollution is a global problem.

Please keep that in mind.

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Sweet! Can anyone say Bio-Diesel?

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You really can't knock Neander with its well designed engine, for anything but price and may be availability.

Well that leaves the door wide open for other manufacturers to jump in and produce a diesel bike fast and cheep.

The main problem is "necessity is the mother of invention", the HDT klr650 was designed for the military because the military needed it. So what will it take for a diesel bike to be mass produced for the masses? I.e. with a sensible price tag.

Gamini, you asked for a 125 or 250 dirtbike, well a Royal Enfield does make a good dirter, use the Lombardini 400cc mentioned by Marc, it has a similar horse power of a 125. I don't think that technology is the key for such a small engine, I think it would be better for a gearbox producer to make a gear box that is matched to a specific engine that is already available (Lombardini, Ruggerini, Hatz), I'm talking 6 or 7 gears of the proper ratios.

I don't suppose people in the third world could afford a new diesel bike irrespective of cc's, anymore than a lot of people could in the UK at the moment.

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Awsome

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I've been following Neander for quite some time. Gammi is absolutely right - this is the model T of the 21st Century. I'm not sure that the company are aware of the significance of developing such a machine - it'll take a multi-national partner - MASSIVE POTENTIAL

DESIGN A VOLKSCYCLE - ITS GOT TO BE A MULTI-NATINAL EFFORT - IT STORAGE / TOWING CAPABILITY

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cute- but we need to build a fundamental diesel bike, for people that have no need to show off. Problem today is quality- they build us crap to keep high consumtion, and we buy it, very sad. We should construct a folk-bike -simple, heavy duty construction, EXTREMELY low consumtion 1 - 1,5 deciliter biodiesel per 100km. Or Lohmanns teaspoon/ kilometer. A bike you can service and fix yourself. No anoying plastic/design/look cool crap. Just the freedome to travel cheap, easy, environmental. It doesnt need to be expensive to buy. No it does not. HDT and Royal Enfield have something in the right direction- If HDT lands on an ok price when they are up and going. Why must we alwas go faster, look cooler? Why is durability practically forbidden in todays construtions? We all know the sad answer- money. If we just could be brave enough to use the materials and knowledge we have and build what we can build. Nevermind the economy- it will stabilize, when we dump all this shit that we dont need. When will we see some real curage in this capitalistic black hole? In the situation we now are environmentally- we really need some hardass idealists. The ultimate rebel today must be an engineer with a heart.

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Well it turns out that the Neander only does 50mpg, a bit of a joke really. I'm aiming for 110mpg with my bike, I don't think I'll get any more out of her than that as she's a heavy little lump. The neander does 137mph? Do we need it though? I would prefer to move the mph top end down and get better economy.

Has the neander got an overdrive gear? I bet it hasn't. Overdrives save fuel, money and pollution.

Let’s hope the next Neander model will be a tourer or a commuter with economy in the fore front of their mind.